The beta is at a stage now where it's much better than it ever originally was, so there's that. It now has some promise to be a fairly decent FPS on it's own.

If it really takes off, I'm hoping it will give much more depth to New Eden in terms of explorable home planets, more intriguing stories, more different environments to different areas of New Eden instead of the same rocks we have everywhere right now, along with more immersion.

The only problem I see with it right now is I have no idea how they're going to manage to make PI relevant enough to make Dust relevant enough to Eve. I mean, really? Fighting over PI installations and that's it? Oh no, you'll remove so many passive sources of income for so many players... big deal. If you make them contestable, then again, I don't see how it would be a big deal since there are soooooo many planets out there, they can just move to a new system and set of planets. In my opinion, they should be more focused on making it about fighting to take control of station environments in 0.0, and other similar endeavors...

totally biggest pile of crap even seen, even worse than the remake of elite

on a more serious note, it might be the end of eve online, if dust is a complete failure

i really hope not, i love eve online

We just really don't care, it's a console shooter for console tards. As long as they stay on their side of the tracks (the crappy side) so we don't have to actually see them we can coexist

Dust 514?

So long as CCP does not lose money on it, I know little and care less.

Those who wish to play Dust 514 will, and those of us who do not wish to, will not.

Is this game even slated for release any time in the next couple of years?

Is there a chance it's going to end up like Twilight Online?

...numbness of the skin...

I don't play it then, more time for Eve

This is why CCp didn't want to make it a PC game ... maybe ONE day people will understand
the did'nt Want to make eve players quit eve for dust ... !!!! clear for everyone NOW ? :x

Me i Think DUST is coming too earlier they should have been doing a system of avatar ( Incarna) for abordeable structures then Abordeable planets .. aand after a time create DUST ( dust players =aliens ? sanshas? ) and put the battlefield on planets

Eve players against dust players factions Vs factions etc etc but not that crapy cooperative intergame Bullshit....

I think Dust breaks the RP in EVE and completely shuts down all interest in New Eden for me.
I returned the ps3 I bought to play Dust because it gave bad light to the EVE universe.

I don't care what it looks like.
Just call it dropsuit instead of Gallente...I was stating it ruined the EVE feel.
Why would an Amarr loyalist be caught wearing their enemies uniform?

Also, Dust only has art so far. The game play is less pleasurable than sticking barbed wire up your ****.

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I am disappointed in the lack of interaction that DUST will have with EVE. It would be awesome if you could send in some DUST players to blow up a POS or have some real impact in PVP rather than just PI. Some ideas that are probably not going to make i

I just want to thank you for asking for my honest opinion and then telling me I'm closed minded because I only include what CCP has announced rather than what might come in a few years. Are you sure you are asking for opinions or are you tryng to tell us what our opinion should be?

OP, are you trying to get traffic to mittani.com or generate interest in Dust? Somehow I don't believe you are actually interested in this subject yourself.

Lets see, Dust...interesting concept and all but the cancer of SOE looms over everything like a black cloud of epic fail. So no, not interested in Dust. SOE has ZERO credibility as a company to me so I avoid their cancerous corporate policies and inept management at all costs.

It should be noted, Planetside 2 is PC only.

So it's not in direct competition with Dust 514.

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Prepare for the OP to tell you that you are close minded and give you what opinion he wants. He is not interested in hearing about the game being on PS3 and not PC. Apparently he feels this is a non-issue.

Your articles are nice but I was never interested in first person shooters, I'm interested in Eve because it's a very different sort of game. I'm sorry I have to pile with the others, but I wouldn't go out and buy a model of a console which is past its heyday only to play the beta of a game that is unfinished.

I'd say you're making me feel terribly poor

As long as the the way it interacts with Eve is revealed with certainty, Dust takes place in the Dust world ; there are surely many ideas around about how the two would go together well but with things like ambulation, ring mining, revamping of POSes being in the pipeline for what appears to be forever, it looks much more sensible to devote oneself to what is really available.

If it really launches with a significant link to Eve it will also be only for Faction Warfare and frankly FW, with its world-encompassing isk-making connivance and pointless NPC empires, is the think associate with Eve the least.

Another thing I found when playing Dust.

Lag. Really... Slow... Menu... Changes. Crap, but it takes a long time to switch between skills and market areas. In EVE it's almost instant, but in Dust it takes so long you forgot why you were going there in the first place. Same thing with trying to change fits on your dropsuit, and sometimes it doesn't even acknowledge the clicks or scrolling to a specific slot.

I really hope this has changed or will change soon, because it makes it all but unplayable for me. Can't be arsed to fit my suits or buy upgrades because it takes so long. Might be why I haven't been particularly successful since they rebooted my skill progression from the first round.

I did have some nice skills plus armor originally, but even found they weren't doing the trick against more skilled, buffed players. You really need to pick one suit and focus completely on it and one weapon to match to do decent over the initial stages.

Obviously, suggest Assault, as Sniper just doesn't have DPS or Protection, and their guns wobble a lot before skill kicks in. Heavy and Logistics take too long to get into to use right away, even though you technically can do Heavy, it's not worth it because you're a sitting duck with no skills.

Also, need Surround because it's too hard to fight well with blinders on, and the speed you turn at doesn't allow you to do squat when a guy comes up behind you and starts shooting. Armor gets Heavier and slower, and you turn slower, so whatever you are, you are done before you even see the attacker most of the time. Also allows Lights to just bounce and you can't keep up with them.

..that's another thing I don't like about it, tracking speed on a person. There is only one speed, and it can be improved, but it's not significant.

Trying not to break the NDA here, so I can't really be specific. Suffice to say, a 180 degree rotation can take more than 5 seconds when you are being shot. I honestly thought that was what armor was for.

I can make a suit that is light, durable, and capable of deflecting even armor piercing rounds, while having built in safeguards against crushing damage, bone-breaking twists and even heavy impacts. Shock absorbtion, built in heat protection, sealed environment if needed, and still have very good vision and movement.

I'm pretty sure that, even being hit by multiple rounds, the wearer would either bounce back quickly or still have the ability to move out of fire and engage the attacker quite easily if they were capable of reacting that way.

Prototyping would cost millions, so don't ask if I have made one.

..actually just thought of something to add to it, now that I've realized another potential flaw in the design. Sucks when you can't see out your visor because it's all fogged up from you breathing on it I imagine.

anyway.. slow. Laggy slow and slow.

Hopefully they've made adjustments in some of those areas, and release will see much smoother, faster menu transition. It's funny, because I'm sure the examples the Devs presented in their videos worked much better and faster than mine. Server proximity most likely.

And yet, for all that, I won't argue it is well designed and has incredible potential as a revolutionary shooter.

I own a PS3 but I'm simply not interested because I don't play FPS all that much for years now (played Quakeworld and Q3 Rocket Arena in esports leagues, but lost interest at some point).

If I play an FPS, I play it exclusively on PC due to better graphics and controls.

Moreover, due to my general lack of interest in FPS, it has to offer really unique gameplay (like Day-Z) or somewhat decent gameplay combined with awesome graphics (like BF3) to lure me - Dust appears to have neither.

Last but not least, I despise the free to play approach.

Anyway - I'm obviously not CCPs target group when it comes to dust.

I expect it to fail hard, but hope it does decently enough to not lead CCP into bankrupcy.